motherjones:

“Do you believe,” I asked, “that there is more poverty in Europe than the United States?”

Is that before or after government payments, he responded.

You can define it any way you want, I said.

“Well, I’ll have to think about that,” he said, and started to shuffle away.

But, I said (quickly), you just stated that European-style welfare creates poverty.

“No, I didn’t,” Romney replied. “I said, look at Cuba, North Korea, and the former Soviet Union.”

We report, you decide.